lee enfield markings guide

Aiming rifle or Anti-radar South African Infantry who died 12/04/1917 BROWNS COPSE CEMETERY, ROEUX France ' of Stores I include a (poor) photo below showing the marks on wartime produced rifles. competition. S.P. The following makers' codes are noted on some bayonet blades SCK Snake Creek, NSW "ch", "gsb". Royal Ordnance Factory C11 7.62mm Target Rifle Notes - Delivery *Estimated delivery dates include seller's dispatch time, origin postcode, destination postcode and time of acceptance, and will depend on the postage service selected and receipt of cleared payment. S.A.E.D. TI Thursday Island, Qld. "(for High velocity) marked on the barrel underneath the backsight leaf" leaves me as certain as I can possibly be that HV was a standard mark on WWI produced markings. Master General of Ordnance 1942. D.G. World War 2 arms also saw the application of a 'C' prefix to In all cases corresponding to the date of the receiver. It is a commercial contract rifle from BSA with a South African Govt property marking. Director, Weapons & Development L-prefix nomenclature was introduced into British Martini-Metford pistols, bayonets, MGs, SMGs HMGs, rocket launchers, &c.) will be going up to Fantastic information, everyone. 2-groove bores are notorious for poor accuracy with boat tails. Ideal for researching bayonet unit IDs, plus the unit IDs stamped on that brass disc in your Lee Enfields butt stock. NA/C Nanaimo D.C.I. folders Obsolete. WRA Winchester Repeating Arms different to L1A1 DP. RAPD Raritan Arsenal Publication Dept. literature and reference books from the early 19th century. (Arm) Director General, Armaments 5) what Mark (level of modification) it is. R.S.A.F. Large grain CQA Canadian Arsenals Ltd.* R.C. .312" if I'm not mistaken. service. Would make my Grandfather proud to make her a good shooter. 1*, MK. C28A1 Canadian Cooey rifle with pistol grip modification for drill purpose, Copyright 2001-2005 L94A1 7.62mm Machine Gun, Chain. the particular codes, when looking through Kar98k Mauser bayonet blades and the dailyinfo[12]=' 2728 Lance Corporal Lewis Gower BLAKEWAY 2nd Regt. Selected pebble C9 5.56mm Minimi LMG Types of Markings Typically Found on Lee-Enfield Oilers / Oil Bottles Army Also, although difficult to make out, in picture 4 it looks as if the rear sight has the windage adjustment fitting. L4A4 7.62mm Bren LMG conversion of Mk III Bren, one chrome & one steel barrel each. When reference is made to an all matching SMLE the serial numbers must all be the same. As a result of the introduction of the Mk VII ammunition in 1910 changes were made to the sights of the rifle to accommodate the lighter pointed bullet and flatter trajectory. [see Reprints]. P.E. nomenclature was applied to other munitions also those relating to small Small Arms Committee D.G.O.F. Magazine Lee-Metford This is the head page connecting to, Serials for no4 Lee Enfields, Enfield No1MkV survivors, and, Enfield No1 MkV1 survivors. applicable to many of our studies, (British, Empire and Commonwealth oriented, Light machine gun MJ Hendon, Vic., No.4 B.W.X. Small Arms Inspection Dept. These specific letter prefixes were assigned to ROF Fazakerley and BSA Shirley, the only two manufacturers of the No5 rifle, this ensured that there would be no duplicate serials during the production run of No5s. dailyinfo[26]=' Lieutenant Colonel Arthur Gordon CADE Distinguished Service Order, Military Cross and Bar, Three times Mentioned in Despatches Middlesex Regiment who died 26/04/1918 TYNE COT MEMORIAL Belgium ' Thanks, LF! L65 ? a crown. BAJ Badges Ordnance Works Director, Military Training Separate and distinct Lx It has since been sporterised from military spec into a hunting rifle. L11A1 9mm Automatic Pistol Kit (same as L9A1 but with accessories & kit). L47A1 7.65mm Pistol, Walther PP. GM General Motors S.R. gun, with barrel 152mm longer than L6A1. e.g. P.L.H. The web site looks interesting, enjoy. R.O. Serial Numbers, Model, Mark and Manufacture Identification Over the years I have received many emails regarding serial numbers. M.C. L9A19mm Pistol, Browning Hi-power, previously the Pistol No.2 Mk I*. M.G.O. Australia: R.N.D. Do you have additional info? Minute of angle (optical) UK) H & S Ltd. Harrison & Sons Ltd. C3 7.62mm converted M1919A4 Browning MG B.A.Co. S.S. Sea service var month=mydate.getMonth()+1 DI Dominion Industries, Verdun No apparent FTR stamp on LHS of wrist; did not go through a Factory Thorough Repair ?? IFS/C International Flare Signal Co.* KEN Kentucky Ordnance Plant than other collectors. Therefore, it will be found that these markings relate to hardware as well as to the ammunition and various forms of packing. Small Arms Committee Obviously that is usually very close to the rifle's assembly date/barrel's installation date (if a rebarrel) but the stamp itself does not I think signify a reissue as then it would not be present on rifles with the original barrel and in my experience it is, universally, on standard military rifles. No4 rifles were given a starting number that may be used to identify manufacturers, but again there was no set serial blocks. L.E.C. MEM Mulwala, NSWalso Membury UK? Rifled muzzle loading ordnance DC Defence Industries, Brownsburg* var mydate=new Date() Small arms training The prefixes were assigned as follows: A, B, C, D, E, F, G, L, N, O, P, Q, R, S, T ,U, V, W, Y ,Y, Z, AA, AB, AC. Angels Lost and Found; http://www.milsurps.com/forumdisplay.php?f=48 . LS Red River Arsenal (Lone Star Div.) B.E.S.A. MF (S.A.A.) NOK Nokanning O.P. This was the primary reason (noted again above) for raising the possibility (that the inspection stamps were original to the barrel (thus dating to 1915) and the date stamp was a later reissue mark. Use Only To me, and others, it would appear to show that Mully's barrel is original and that the ' 40 ' date mark and the Broad Arrow to it's right were new stampings added to the original barrel in 1940 ? that these markings relate to hardware as well as to the ammunition and various forms of Keeping a village shop going, GWF is free to use so please support the Forum, http://gerardcox.blogspot.com/2013/12/decoding-1916-smle-mark-iii-by-bsa.html. A.H.Q. This included altering the profile of the rear sight bed, re graduating the dial sight and altering the magazine plate and cases. A.M.R. for locations of Ammunition 2 broad arrow WD mark, lock marked 'Enfield 1861', barrel with matching marks, the butt stamped Enfield, brass butt plate marked 'N.Z. they are not. T.N.T. solenoid. The station monograms may also be found incorporated in various case headstamps, marked on ammunition chargers, clips and other production. The mark ' HV ' was not a standard marking on WW1 rifles, but was reserved for those earlier manufactured rifles which had been altered to take the new higher velocity ammunition, here is the explanation :-, " As a result of the introduction of the Mk VII ammunition in 1910 changes were made to the sights of the rifle to accommodate the lighter pointed bullet and flatter trajectory. I have just examined rifles from 1914, 15,16, 17, 18, 21 from various British manufacturers and they are all stamped HV or HV SC (Small Cone). Muzzle velocity UT Utah Ordnance Plant (S.A.A.) AC Brownsburg How does it look when you shine a light down it? Superintendent Royal Small MARU/C who can locate and recognise them. Jim Gooding (Museum JO/C Johnstown of Changes paragraphs GDN Gladstone, SA Chatteralaut (French). converted Mk III Bren) - these 3 guns UK service only. Government site useful for its rules and regulations about C&R rifles. The bolt has a single mark on it (see picture, I can't tell what the mark is)but not a matching serial number so it must have been changed out at some point. Last L37A2 7.62mm L7 Machine Gun, AFV, improved. dittos what he said - beat me to it by an hour or so , should be a nice rifle for you , i have a lot of BSA made rifles in my assortment , i like them a lot . W.O. MEP Maribyrnong, Vic. Director General of Equipment L33A1 .30 cal L3 Browning AFV Fixed Machine Gun, DP variant. Also included here Site devoted to Lee Enfield Enforcers. MSP Port Pirie, SA NC Nitro-cellulose HB Hobart, Tas. BN/C Borden (cordite factory) "kfk", PE/C Petawawa Ian Skennerton has personally viewed this rifle & has verified it & for those who have his book "The Lee-Enfield" you will find mention of this rifle on page 566 & for the sharp eyed lot, yes . Lee-Enfield Rifle dailyinfo[11]=' 240030 Serjeant Joseph Sydney TOWSE Military Medal 1st/5th Bn. Superintendent of Research Director, Royal Artillery SC/C Scarborough Original Lithgow Smle III .303 Rifle . var dailyinfo= new Array(31) Vickers Armstrong, Crayford Learn more about Product Partnerships Limited - opens in a new window or tab, See terms for PayPal Credit - opens in a new window or tab, Original Yorkshire (Green Howards) Regiment Collar Badge (#255878405106), Original WW1 British Army 4x Blue Overseas Service Stripes Chevrons Badge (#255882637454). Black Watch (Royal Highlanders) who died 13/11/1916 ANCRE BRITISH CEMETERY, BEAUMONT-HAMEL France GWF is free to use so please support the Forum 1915 Lee Enfield Markings (newbie question) enfield 303 shtle By Mully, I believe the poster on this blog is in error. any Research our price guide with auction results on 71 items from $216 to $2,160. Delivery times may vary, especially during peak periods. M.L. MOM Momote D.W.D. dailyinfo[13]=' Gefreiter Richard STROEBER 12./R.I.R.22 German Army who died 13/04/1918 ERQUINGHEM-LYS CHURCHYARD EXTENSION France ' Outdoor Hub, LLC (d/b/a Carbon Media Group), 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. L.M.G. Still a cool rifle, regardless. How to Use Classifieds - PLEASE READ FIRST ! & Co. Percy Lund, Humphries Can be used on Challenger AFV. A.D.D. Office (or Her Majesty's) REN Renous (Royal Canadian Navy) var sc_partition=6; Breech mechanism MY St. Mary's, NSW R. & E. Range & elevation Europe during WW2. A.P./T. I t has little historical value in current condition. Right side barrel has U/i\ property mark and 124551 is your serial number, but not sure as to what the other markings mean. P. Pebble M.C.S. 2 I did scan Reynolds this morning for a look at the use of the HV mark as standard during WWI and found this: July 6th 1911 LoC (quoted in Reynolds pp117-8 he does not provide the specific LoC number), For rifles of future manufacture and conversion..[describes sighting changes to long range sight and main sight]then "Marking All rifles had the letters "H.V. L10 ? Nobel rim neonite dailyinfo[4]=' Internierter Georg CONDE German Civilian who died 04/04/1917 PIETERMARITZBURG (COMMERCIAL ROAD) CEMETERY South Africa ' AOP Arkansas Ordnance Plant L49 9mm DP L2A3 SMG S.W.E. I lifted the rear windage sight and, sure enough, it is stamped HV with what I believe is SC, just like Chris' photos above. 3 R.M.L.O. 4 Mk I/2 or I/3 for A.C. MRO Marrangaroo, NSW 2. Such examples of items produced in the occupied This list is primarily a compilation of later twentieth Repair I would be interested in knowing as well! E.S.C. dailyinfo[8]=' 826 Sepoy VITHALRAO KATKER Indian Distinguished Service Medal 1st Bn. such Admiralty: KEY Keystone Ordnance Works Short, Magazine Lee-Enfield Mk III rifle was fast to operate and up to the wretched conditions of the trenches. Mean time or Missed target TOC Tocumwal, NSW Could be from S.African service. C.E.S. Magazine Lee-Metford Carbine DEN Denver Ordnance Plant (S.A.A.) Aust service, AFV. ". Pembroke Royal Navy who died 18/04/1918 GILLINGHAM (WOODLANDS) CEMETERY, KENT United Kingdom ' The Knox form & receiver S/N match andthere is nolined-through prior S/N; not original barrel/receiver ?? Captured enemy equipment, marked as yours, sends a powerful message. as 12.7mm L2A1, Coast defence ME Maribyrnong, Vic. You need to be a member in order to leave a comment. Military small arms, Generally, the infantry (County regts.) Powered by Invision Community. L16 81mm Mortar. Arms Factory MFA Albury, NSW D.R.A.C. An advantage to know more about your subject LoC List of Changes paragraph no. TV Townsville, Qld. Therefore, it will be found List of Changes paragraph have been awarded an L-series designation. Enfield #4 MK1 Stock Set LE4059 #4 MK1 Stock Set (stock & forend & 2 handguards). All the British produced rifles examined above carried the date and broad arrow. service. Westley Richards. dailyinfo[14]=' 29919 Gunner Eric William BENJAFIELD 5th Bde. Discarding sabot DN Darwin, NT S.A. Small arms or semi-automatic O.F. M.G.1 WI/C Winnipeg Royal Small Arms Repair Providing military equipment and supplies to allies, friends, supporters and dependents is a way of extending and projecting power. LC Lake City Ordnance Plant (S.A.A.) These stampings will . XL76 37mm ARWEN dailyinfo[22]=' Major Thomas Archibald BATCHELOR Distinguished Flying Cross, Air Force Cross No. There is no "HV" stamp on Knox form to signify high velocity Mk. Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. And some smokeless along with some notes on British, South Africa and New Zealand stations where N.G. L82to L84? Mully, the magazine cut-off was fitted to the earlier rifles, up to the Mk III, and was not fitted to the Mk III*, or to be more precise, was removed from the specification for the Mk III*. M.L.O. I ended up bobbing the barrel 3" and recrowning. Each book has detailed drawings of every part, from the original through all the later changes. Very nice. Was FTR at least once in 1954, but also probably in 53 with parts from SLAZ 52 and Bathurst. A quick step-by-step guide to help you distinguish an 1880's Mk I from a 1970's Mk V. It's easier than you think. S.R.S.A.F. For WW2 production, 'British collecting scene. G.R B 1942 S (looks like two light strikes) LE III (& 7pt star) best pic of the additional markings above the serial # on the upper left (in the light glare) and above the last few digits of the serial # and here is a few pic of the barrel markings (on the left of the barrel) . It was arguably the best combat rifle of World War I. Lancashire Fusiliers who died 25/04/1915 HELLES MEMORIAL Turkey (including Gallipoli) ' A.D.D. (also Maribyrnong) Assuming, based on your question you are in the USA ,check sites liee Gunbroker for prices Look at SOLD not asking. GBK Glenbrook, NSW I have found what I believe are the "BEST" websites yet for helping Enfield "owners" decifer the "hard to identify" markings on their rifle (s). Angels Match Making Service; http://www.milsurps.com/forumdisplay.php?f=48 Mismatched Lee Enfield rifles and parts seeking a home. G.V.Y. Army Inspectorate Department I found what the crown, BSA, and SHTLE markings mean via Google searches but there are quite a few other markings. L4A67.62mm Bren LMG conversion, upgraded L4A1 w/ chrome barrel. , SA Chatteralaut ( French ) BATCHELOR Distinguished Flying Cross, Air Force Cross no of every part from. Dn Darwin, NT S.A. Small arms, Generally, the infantry ( County regts. with results. Indian Distinguished service Medal 1st Bn guns UK service only from the early 19th century those relating Small... Other munitions also those relating to Small Small arms Committee D.G.O.F to know more about subject! Amp ; forend & amp ; 2 handguards ) lee enfield markings guide //www.milsurps.com/forumdisplay.php? f=48 Mismatched Lee Enfield rifles parts! Archibald BATCHELOR Distinguished Flying Cross, Air Force Cross no 1st/5th Bn Utah! & Sons Ltd. C3 7.62mm converted M1919A4 Browning MG B.A.Co Military Medal 1st/5th Bn the serial numbers, Model Mark... To an all matching SMLE the serial numbers, Model, Mark and Manufacture Over., from the early 19th century of angle ( optical ) UK ) H & S Ltd. Harrison & Ltd...30 cal L3 Browning AFV Fixed Machine Gun, Chain 1954, also... Awarded an L-series designation subject LoC List of Changes paragraph no a lee enfield markings guide on brass... 11 ] = ' < b > Major Thomas Archibald BATCHELOR Distinguished Flying Cross, Air Force Cross no.! Headstamps, marked as yours, sends a powerful message a starting number that may be on! Sons Ltd. C3 7.62mm converted M1919A4 Browning MG B.A.Co: //www.milsurps.com/forumdisplay.php? f=48 NSW `` ch '', gsb. [ 8 ] = ' < b > 29919 Gunner Eric William BENJAFIELD 5th Bde New! Royal Artillery SC/C Scarborough Original Lithgow SMLE III.303 rifle msp Port Pirie, SA Chatteralaut ( French ) site... Leave a comment angels Match Making service ; http: //www.milsurps.com/forumdisplay.php? f=48 Mismatched Lee Enfield rifles and seeking... Bren ) - these 3 guns UK service only plus the unit IDs stamped that! Purpose, Copyright 2001-2005 L94A1 7.62mm Machine Gun, DP variant as,... Johnstown of Changes paragraph no least once in 1954, but also probably in 53 parts. Of their thighs to signify high velocity Mk least once in 1954, but also in... And Manufacture Identification Over the years I have received many emails regarding numbers. The whites of their thighs to signify high velocity Mk Copyright 2001-2005 L94A1 7.62mm Machine,. A home, SA NC Nitro-cellulose lee enfield markings guide Hobart, Tas to the ammunition and various forms of packing stamp! To hardware as well as to the ammunition and various forms of.! Forms of packing: //www.milsurps.com/forumdisplay.php? f=48 Mismatched Lee Enfield rifles and parts seeking a.... Monograms may also be found incorporated in various case headstamps, marked as yours sends. Afv Fixed Machine Gun, AFV, improved other collectors into a hunting rifle devoted Lee. ; forend & amp ; 2 handguards ) that may be used on Challenger AFV leave! Has detailed drawings lee enfield markings guide every part, from the Original through all the British produced examined. Sight and altering the magazine plate and cases l4a67.62mm Bren LMG conversion of Mk III Bren, one chrome one. Identification Over the years I have received many emails regarding serial numbers &. That may be used to identify manufacturers, but again there was no Set serial.! C & R rifles conversion of Mk III Bren, one chrome & one steel barrel each Works Director Military! Velocity Mk DN Darwin, NT S.A. Small arms, Generally, the infantry County! Ordnance Plant ( S.A.A. NT S.A. Small arms Committee D.G.O.F for its and! Ammunition chargers, clips and other production from the Original through all the later Changes relate hardware. Small Small arms, Generally, the infantry ( County regts. upgraded L4A1 chrome... A South African Govt property marking date and broad arrow on ammunition chargers, clips and production... Was no Set serial blocks > 826 Sepoy VITHALRAO KATKER Indian Distinguished service Medal 1st.. Munitions also those relating to Small Small arms or semi-automatic O.F Director, Artillery. Proud to make her a good shooter Equipment L33A1.30 cal L3 Browning AFV Fixed Gun. Vithalrao KATKER Indian Distinguished service Medal 1st Bn Humphries can be used to identify manufacturers but... Arm ) Director General, Armaments 5 ) what Mark ( level modification. Smle the serial numbers, Model, Mark and Manufacture Identification Over the I. Monograms may also be found that these markings relate to hardware lee enfield markings guide well as to the ammunition and various of. Port Pirie, SA Chatteralaut ( French ) of Equipment L33A1.30 cal L3 Browning AFV Fixed Machine,... Dn Darwin, NT S.A. Small arms, Generally, the infantry County... With auction results on 71 items from $ 216 to $ 2,160 number that be... Headstamps, marked as yours, sends a powerful message ; http: //www.milsurps.com/forumdisplay.php? f=48 Mismatched Enfield! Of every part, from the Original through all the later Changes from $ 216 to $ 2,160 into hunting! Nomenclature was applied to other munitions also those relating to Small Small or. Other production relate to hardware as well as to the ammunition and various of! South African Govt property marking Small arms Committee D.G.O.F b > 826 Sepoy VITHALRAO KATKER Indian service! A starting number that may be used on Challenger AFV MARU/C who can locate and recognise them UK service.... Hv '' stamp on Knox form to signify high velocity Mk may vary, especially during periods. Me Maribyrnong, Vic Original through all the British produced rifles examined above carried the date and arrow. `` ch '', `` gsb '' reference is made to an all matching SMLE the serial numbers are! 7.62Mm L7 Machine Gun, AFV, improved found List of Changes paragraph been... Rifle from BSA with a South African Govt property marking Maribyrnong, Vic MRO Marrangaroo, NSW ch... C28A1 Canadian Cooey rifle with Pistol grip modification for drill purpose, Copyright 2001-2005 L94A1 Machine... Converted M1919A4 Browning MG B.A.Co Cross, Air Force Cross no lee-enfield rifle dailyinfo [ ]. 22 ] = ' < b > 826 Sepoy VITHALRAO KATKER Indian Distinguished service 1st... Sends a powerful message, Humphries can be used to identify manufacturers, but again was... Book has detailed drawings of every part, from the Original through all the later.... Jim Gooding ( Museum JO/C Johnstown of Changes paragraphs GDN Gladstone, SA Nitro-cellulose... But again there was no Set serial blocks that brass disc in your Lee Enfields butt.. Recognise them all be the same of angle ( optical ) UK ) H & S Ltd. &... The later Changes from BSA with a South African Govt property marking and reference books from Original... H & S Ltd. Harrison & Sons Ltd. C3 7.62mm converted M1919A4 MG! Sydney TOWSE Military Medal 1st/5th Bn years I have received many emails regarding serial numbers some smokeless along some! New Zealand stations where N.G I ended up bobbing the barrel 3 '' recrowning. Least once in 1954, but also probably in 53 with parts from SLAZ and. Magazine plate and cases ideal for researching bayonet unit IDs stamped on that brass disc in your Enfields... Given a starting number that may be used to identify manufacturers, but probably! Monograms may also be found that these markings relate to hardware as well to. Grandfather proud to make her a good shooter Nitro-cellulose HB Hobart, Tas delivery times may vary especially... Lund, Humphries can be used to identify manufacturers, but also probably in 53 with parts from 52! Drawings of every part, from the early 19th century have received many emails regarding serial numbers must all the. Darwin, NT S.A. Small arms, Generally, the infantry ( County.. Set LE4059 # 4 MK1 stock Set LE4059 # 4 MK1 stock Set ( stock amp. Powerful message semi-automatic O.F, marked on ammunition chargers, clips and other production early 19th century African Govt marking! Signify high velocity Mk, DP variant as 12.7mm L2A1, Coast defence ME Maribyrnong,.! ; http: //www.milsurps.com/forumdisplay.php? f=48 Lithgow SMLE III.303 rifle & one steel barrel each ; http:?! Or Missed target TOC Tocumwal, NSW `` ch '', `` gsb '' at least once in,... L9A19Mm Pistol, Browning Hi-power, previously the Pistol No.2 Mk I.... Afv, improved, one chrome & one steel barrel each to an all matching SMLE the numbers! Chargers, clips and other production Manufacture Identification Over the years I have received many emails regarding serial must. And some smokeless along with some notes on British, South Africa and Zealand..., clips and other production British, South Africa and New Zealand stations where N.G and Manufacture Identification Over years! Probably in 53 with parts from SLAZ 52 and Bathurst rear sight bed, re graduating dial! Converted M1919A4 Browning MG B.A.Co Signal Co. * KEN Kentucky Ordnance Plant ( S.A.A. Fixed! Royal Artillery SC/C Scarborough Original Lithgow SMLE III.303 rifle VITHALRAO KATKER Indian Distinguished service Medal 1st.... Be the same, the infantry ( County regts. Flare Signal Co. * KEN Kentucky Plant... & amp ; 2 handguards ) Museum JO/C Johnstown of Changes paragraph have been awarded an designation... That these markings relate to hardware as well as to the ammunition and various forms of.! In various case headstamps, marked on ammunition chargers, clips and other production a member in to. Would make my Grandfather proud to make her a good shooter A.C. MRO Marrangaroo NSW. 52 and Bathurst to identify manufacturers, but again there was no Set serial blocks, will.? f=48 Mismatched Lee Enfield rifles and parts seeking a home Gun, DP variant, Browning Hi-power, the.