Cordovan works well in combination with calf leather if you are going down the bespoke route. However, my aim would be flannels and knitwear at the very smartest (anything smarter, Id instinctively reach for suede tassels), mostly denim (regular fit ie. and here comes how people doing your job can leverage meaningful portion of business for certain sectorsin this case the clothing industry. It has bright luster, non-creasing grain character, great leather smell and ability to develop and keep these characteristics over time. $45.00 Horween x Black Bear Brand Tee - Black. Thank you. I also have a variety of vintage Florsheim Royal Imperial, Bostonian and other US brands purchased at almost bargain prices. Any particular misgivings about Carmina? Not necessarily size up from my normal size, but if I was unsure at all, or felt I was between sizes, then picking the larger one. Those partners may have their own information theyve collected about you. I have several pairs of shell cordovans, some from Alden and some from Allen Edmonds, all acquired almost two decades ago when the prices were only about 60% of what they are now. Recent vintages seem to be noticeably darker and more purple than shoes and boots from 4-5 years ago; those were much closer to a burgundy red. Would you consider an article about how to wear tassel loafers sometime? Id suggest keeping shoe trees in them, and then trying a really good brushing and bushing (do it hard, for longer than you think you need to youre trying to build up heat through friction). last year (shown below). Mine have all been within the past 4-5 years. Below you'll find the men's specific size chart: Goodyear Welted shoes & sneakers are made & fit quite differently. Lots of details above in the comments sorry, too much to repeat here! Youre just more likely to remember to do it after youve worn them. Ive resigned to the fact that unique oily finish, with the rolls and that dull glow as you nicely put it, is truly unique. Just to clarify: the Aldens you are wearing have a shorter than usual vamp and that style can only be purchased in the US? Have you had any experience with Shinki cordovan? A shirtmaker is telling me he is worried the Chambray Cloth might not be enough for a shirt (1.1 x 2.5m). Simon Obviously, they have both been resoled. The Carmina styles often seem like a bit of a mismatch to me too smart a style (eg thin welt) for the leather. Said that, there is one exception, which is our Ultraflex System construction, which aside from the structural leather insole also comes with an additional memory foam insole on top of it. Sorry. Still, those can be buffed out or taken out with cream, and the point is they dont get salt stains, which are what really kill leather shoes in the long term. General wisdom among Alden fans dictates that the Aberdeen fits true to (Brannock) size, and the Barrie is roomier all around, and can be worn a half size smaller. Mar 11 His & Hers: Waterproof Chelseas Our waterproof Wholecut Chelsea Boot in rust Waxy Commander in stock now for everyone. Our Opinion: Shell cordovan is our favorite leather out there, no question. He pairs it with Momotaro Denim and Viccel Dress Socks. Yes, I know what you mean. 3+ cards per pocket. In both cases the material is just one factor. I have been talked out of purchasing cordovan shoes by Alden and others because of two issues. See something like my oundles from Edward Green for example. I never understood what the bone should do, either. I dared not wear them on days when it might rain because the polish looked like a thin layer of mud if it got wet. We've sent you an email to confirm your subscription. Due to the natural finishing processes used to create Lactae Hevea soles, there may sometimes be slight imperfections and colour differences from sole to sole. This is not intended to be a dressy shoe, so the brass eyelets fitted well. Time left: 3d 5h | Current bid: GBP 399.00 [ 1 bid] Approximately US $497.41. Its certainly thicker than calf. I think what Im getting at, is in this more casual modern day we find ourselves in, it is a very useful leather. Perhaps better if the toe cap was unbrogued or just a plain toe, or if the edges were dressed a little darker? However, I would think carefully about the style. Alas, they arrived as composites of three pieces , and look quite scuffed after just light wear. Hi simon thanks. Kind of difficult to find a store and compare by myself in my area. Kinda strange in a casual outfit if your shoes shine that much. The ROD last features a casual round toe shape and a truly acommodating fit. Shell cordovan is given a full vegetable tannage and is then retanned, a process that takes over 6 months, to create a leather that has an exceptionally soft and smooth feel, rich earth-tone colors, and a bright, glossy look. Notably, the Alden store on Madison Avenue in New York city advised me once that you should eschew shoe cream and instead use paste wax every now and then (but keep it infrequent). Hi Simon, do you think Aldens moc toe in Barrie last would be too casual and wide for mid-grey flannel trousers with 18.5cm leg openings? Ive been retired for a few years. The loafers shown above - my Alden full-straps on the Aberdeen last - look almost black in this light. Our largest capacity wallet. Is cordovan not as smart as suede? But, cordovan doesnt get those salt stains, so there is less advantage in the rubber. I assumed that you thought about stretching the width of these shoes (and not the length Perhaps you didn`t need to? Keep in mind that anyone can view public collectionsthey may also appear in recommendations and other places. Just use it very sparingly, as cordovan doesnt really need it much. Pairing black with brown strikes me as the perhaps the ultimate example of knowing the rules and knowing how to break them, and if done wrong could look positively awful. As to Cordovan accessories I have two wallets in Colour 8 that look beautiful but which go unused, and a key fob. The Aberdeen last wasnt available at the time. Usage frequency: As a retiree; I dont really get out too often. Sometimes, the people that do so like many farmers Ive met have more respect for the animals than anyone else. Im not. It would be hard to go wrong with a work boot with jeans Amit. What would be your thoughts about cordovan colour 8 wholecut? BTW: I totally get your preference of color 8 over black. I also have a very high instep and no ankles (I am a poor specimen of the species in many ways). Id stick with the bigger size and try a half insole or tongue pad. Sure, though to be honest I dont think theres anything to how to wear them. No I think youre right Paul, there is only a very small difference there and it will look fine. The problem is, I cannot think of another leather that fills the void that cordovan, colour 8 (the darkest variation) specifically, does. The guy knows where to find everything all over the world. Leather: Horween Shell Cordovan #4, #8, Black, Bourbon, Dark Cognac, Midnight Blue. Very limited grounds for complaint generally, and even then its better to focus on all of the options that are readily available vs. whats not. Theyre so open anyway, with that low vamp. (15% off), Keep collections to yourself or inspire other shoppers! I tried to increase the leg openings for some trousers (up to 20cm, especially for tailored trousers) during the bespoke process, but they didnt look great. Obviously I feel very comfortable on my toes if I wear that size but my heels slip as if Im wearing flip flops. Ah, I see. Im curious to see how their loafers for example, compare to those by aldens. Theres nothing wrong with the shoe, but it can be a bit of a shock if youre not expecting it. Cordovan takes its name from the city of Crdoba, Spain, where the production of cordovan leather was first practiced by the Visigoths in the seventh century. You can see that in these images with my Blackhorse Lane denim. They are well known for their attention to detail, beautiful hides and rich colors. If my shoe size is UK 8.5 and most of my trousers leg openings are 18.5-19cm, do you think I should instead look for the slimmer lasts than Barrie lasts? Do make sure you like the chukka boot style though as in, you know you would wear that boot with what you want it for. Venetian Cream. Check out our shell cordovan watch band selection for the very best in unique or custom, handmade pieces from our watch bands & straps shops. No worries Henrik these posts are never old, as you can see from the regular comments over the years. You were mentioning the armoury/fukuda lasts. P.S. If anything, Id say that Carmina is more cleanly made. Would you be kind to tell your usual shoe size in UK and what size did you get for the Barrie last in US size please? On the contrary, I found Carminas work to be much cleaner in the pairs Ive checked. USD 118.80, USD 132.00 Simon, you mention your black cordovan loafer from E. Green and your relative lack of enthusiasm for it when compared with color 8. Anyways, the Alden Indy color 8 shell is often said to be super versatile. Hong Kong,Hong Kong Alden rare whiskey shell cordovan long wing blucher. And what color socks would you wear? Dark Cognac Horween Shell Cordovan Single Pass NATO, leather watch strap, Handmade CBailLeather (53) $104.00 FREE shipping More colors Full Horween Shell Cordovan Airtag and Moneyclip Wallet With Optional Key Fob Airtag Holder Avaiable In Multiple Colors Handmade in the USA LoFiLeathercraft (32) $25.00 FREE shipping Hi Simon, But Ive not found it usually takes long to wear in - no longer, really, than the soles you get on a lot of English shoes. Curious how your Alden full straps fit now? Or does the fact that Carmina, Alden, C&J and EG all source their cordovan from Horween means that it is exactly the same material? BOOTS IN SHELL CORDOVAN DARK ARMAGNAC 1000$ Free shipping Size UK: add to bag 4 interest-free payments of $250.00. 8? Brushing will always help with calf too see video on that kind of care here, But its much more possible with cordovan. Yes, you've heard right, Shell Cordovan the cream of the crop when it comes to luxurious quality shoe leather is now available. Alden seem to have a large love-hate following online which has so far made me steer clear of them (even though I really like the darker shade of their col 8), but Ive been looking to purchase a pair of cordovan loafers a while now myself. Just checking you dont think I am here? Would you advise to work with black cream to darken it? I recommend doing it after every wear, if you can. Fitted with our robust studded rubber sole Thank you for a most interesting article. And its a shade I prefer - you can see the difference in my Vass pair above. Hey Simon! But from what you write here about comfort and opting for the larger size (if in doubt) I figure that I ought to go for the size 8,5/ E rather than trying my luck on a pair in size 8,5 D ? Original Price 30.94 Once your account is created, you'll be logged-in to this account. In general have a read of the review of their boots here. , this colour 8 makes up about 65% of their cordovan production. Said that, better to compare with another pair of Goodyear Welted or dress shoes you have or have tried before. If any material could, certainly C8 cordovan could. One thing I wonder, is why if one of the advantages is handling rain better than other materials, most of the vendors I have seen make the shoes with leather soles Its like counteracting the advantages of the upper. Fitted with our robust studded rubber sole. Thank you! Pardon my ignorance, but is there a historic and/or cultural basis for favoring of burgundy / number 8 shoes in the United States? I am really surprised about the off the box fit- I have the same model in suede and it wasnt as good at first, but here I have no noticeable pressure points after using them for some hours around the house. Very interesting the combination of loafers and selvedge denim. 9E in the Barrie. Once the sole is fitted the shoe will have its complete form. Do you mind telling if you have same size on Alden shoes on Barrie and Van last and are they the same width? I dont think you should try and match too closely Neil see post here. Ive used Alden, but Id also recommend Yorkshire Sole I saw a friends repair their on Aldens and it was very good. And does it work with calf too, or only cordovan? Learn More CUSTOMISE AND CREATE YOUR OWN CORDOVAN WORK BOOTS 80791 OSCAR 1000$ size UK add to bag Free shipping LEARN MORE Easy returns LEARN MORE Hand made in Mallorca Bought together normally . Cordovan is, generally, easier to look after than calf. Gents! I wear them with denim, with chinos, and at the most with flannels and knitwear. Ive only noticed a very slight squeaking, but I have to say it hasnt decreased over time Im afraid. Still kicking myself for not splurging on them when I was at the Madison store, but having just gotten a baby a few months prior I felt guilty even considering it. Brown calf seems to work fine but I wonder if there is something especially formal about black calf that makes it not versatile. Shell Cordovan is KREIS' leather of choice for keycases. However, Alden also put an extra coat on their cordovan when they receive it, making their colour 8 slightly darker and deeper. Shinki Cognac Shell Cordovan Leather Strap $175.00 AUD. I think its worth looking closely into the economics of it Casey. Thanks in advance. Loafers in France are usually either elongated in the Italian style, or chunky (boxy ?) I am not sure if there is much variance in the quality of cordovan offered by Horween (as there is, for instance, with European tanneries). Certainly, very comfortable and quite capable of surviving a downpour or two, although I still have my old habit of stuffing with newspaper if they are very wet(military habits die hard). And when its grey denim, black shoes actually look best. Many thanks, Simon I like the cut on your Blackhorse Lane jeans could you advise as to which model you are wearing? Most stronger colours will be better with suede almost anything bright or strong really. Providing excellent support while retaining a snug heel control so that the foot remains in place avoiding any slippage or sliding-forward to within the boot. Would you say the van or abeerden last is more suitable? Thanks! It looks almost as if some patina artist (think Berluti) had a go at them. The dark aubergine-colored Alden finish does fade out after a few years, even when storing them away from sunlight. Safe travels to NY. However; my more (ahem) refined tastes always lean toward something like a Cordovan. If you want another recommendation, look at the handful that Crocketts have in cordovan. 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